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Perhaps it would be correct to have the Übermensch entry here under Superman? What is the correct English nomenclature for that philosophical construct? --Anders Törlind

I would imagine that "superman" is correct, after G.B. Shaw's 1903 play, Man and Superman.


I disagree. The concept of the Übermensch ("Uebermensch" in 7 bits) is an important one in Nietzsche's philosophy. Also, thanks in no small part to the tremendous cultural impact of the "Superman" character, most philosophers prefer the more literal translation of "Overman" these days. See, e.g., the translations of -- and biography of -- Nietzsche by Walter Kaufmann. -- Branden


Right, "overman" is more common among philosophers.

What the hekck does this mean? "During the 1980s, the rapper Wonder Mike was styled as being the romantic rival of Superman for the affections of the Lois Lane." --Larry Sanger

It's a humorous reference to the seminal hip-hop song Rapper's Delight, which included the lyrics, sung by Wonder Mike:

A reporter stopped me for a interview,
She said she's heard stories and she's heard fables
That I'm vicious on the mike and the turntables.
This young reporter I did adore,
So I rocked a vicious rhyme like I never did before.
She said "Damn! Fly guy, I'm in love with you,
The Casanova legend must have been true."
I said, "By the way baby, what's your name?"
She said, "I go by the name of Lois Lane
And you could be my boyfriend, you surely can,
Just let me quit my boyfriend called Superman."
I said "He's a fairy, I do suppose,
Flyin' through the air in pantyhose.
He may be very sexy or even cute,
but he looks like a sucker in a blue and red suit."
I said, "You need a man who's got finesse
And his whole name across his chest.
He may be able to fly all through the night,
But can he rock a party 'til the early light?
He can't satisfy you with his little worm,
But I can bust you out with my super sperm!

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--TheCunctator


I suggest we make all the links to people in the Superman legend as subpages, as it is unlikely one would search directly for them. What is the will of the group?

I'll weigh in with an opinion that any major (and many minor) pop culture figures should have their own page, linking back to a more central concept in most cases, but nonetheless a standalone page. Wiki is not paper as they say. Tigger from Winnie the Pooh, Lois Lane from Superman, Kosmo Kramer from Seinfeld -- all are part of a bigger cultural phenomenon, but all are likely to be searched for separately as well. --Jimbo Wales



Does anyone besides me feel that the Superman's transition from, "Truth, justice, and the American way," to just, "Truth and justice," is significant/worth mentioning? Perhaps to show how Superman has changed over the years to reflect the changes in American culture.--BlackGriffen

Absolutely. I'm not a comic fan, but I would be interested to see the development from patriotism to a more philosophical view of "truth and justice". --STG